• Members 1469 posts
    May 9, 2024, 5:17 p.m.
  • Members 342 posts
    May 10, 2024, 1:06 p.m.

    Hi,

    Ah, yes. I remember these. The only digital cameras with APS-C sensors which are actually Full Frame.

    In case anyone doesn't know, Nikon's Pronea was thier APS film SLR. ;)

    And they had the IX lenses to match, although one could also use the FX lenses (but they weren't called such quite yet).

    Stan

  • Members 1469 posts
    May 11, 2024, 5:35 p.m.

    Hi! StanDisbrow

    Unfortunately, the people here don't give a damn about the history of digital photography.
    They prefer to discuss the moderators of DPReview, with more than 915 interventions to date, and counting 😈

  • May 11, 2024, 9:29 p.m.

    That's not true of everyone. I enjoy following your posts.

    Alan

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    May 11, 2024, 10:48 p.m.

    I did and you didnt have the time to do a current test against current mirrorless so i could establish the REAL DR of cameras, instead i had to place a wanted add for the d30 3meg camera so i can do my own tests.

  • Members 508 posts
    May 12, 2024, 9:30 a.m.

    Fuji X is APS-C and designed from the ground up to be APS-C. There is no legacy 35mm format in there and no legacy 35mm lenses to go with it. I think it is reasonable to call it full frame APS-C (as it is to call 4/3 full frame 4/3). Calling these formats "crop" does them a disservice in a way.

    The same could be said about GFX medium format. It's a crop by traditional medium format film standards, but it isn't really a crop format, it's a small medium format in its own right, the lens mount and the lenses are all dedicated to 44x33, there's no legacy 645,6x6 or larger lenses in the GFX brand.

  • Members 1469 posts
    May 12, 2024, 6:02 p.m.

    No, DavidMillier it's just a wink from StanDisbrow 😉

    To underline the fact that the Kodak DCS 315 and DCS 330, as well as the Minolta RD-3000 (1999)
    These are the only cameras derived from APS "film" cameras. that's why we use the term FF for these three cameras.
    The sensors are the same size, and the term APS-C derives from the 1996 APS "film" format.
    At the time, all other digital DSLR cameras were derivatives of 24x36mm film cameras.
    I hope this makes things clearer for you. 😎

  • May 12, 2024, 6:39 p.m.

    Don't forget Canon's APS-H cameras which seemed to be a midpoint between APS-C and FF.

    Alan

  • Members 342 posts
    May 13, 2024, 7:32 p.m.

    Hi,

    And Kodak had APS-H models, using Nikon N90 and F5 and Canon EOS-1N film bodies. I had them all. Even monochrome versions.

    However, no one made a digital APS-P (Panoramic, the third form of APS film).....

    By the time anything came out of Fuji by way of designed to be APS-C, the APS film standard was already dead and buried. Perhaps they ought to call it their small format to line up with the way they call the GFX large format. Maybe they already do. Fuji happily marches to the beat of their own drum. :)

    As far as the 44x33mm sensor being cropped medium format, there is no way around that. Pentax was first to use it in 2010 and they opted to make use of their 645 bodies and lenses.

    What I see in regards to Fuji is they locked themselves into that size with their system, so they can't make use of the physically larger 150 MP sensor. Not that I think they need it. 100 MP seems to do just fine. And we don't know what's coming next for that size. Sony has a new fab. Right now, only for industrial uses, but we all know they won't be stopping there.

    Stan